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    What If...?

    What if the VHSL doesn't do away with the "Rye Cove Rule" and all of the current Region D Division 2 teams that would be able to drop to Division 1 do so? What if this would have been the case this year?

    This is what the playoffs would have looked like if that were the case - in regards to the new regional alignment with the introduction of the fourth district & four additional schools. Granted, schedules for some teams would have been changed a little, but for the most part would have stayed the same:

    In Division 2, you would have had:

    #4 Gate City (4-6, 13.5) @ #1 Lebanon* (8-2, 19.1)
    #3 Virginia High (5-5, 16.8) @ #2 Powell Valley (7-3, 18.0)


    In Division 1, it would have looked like this:

    #4 Ervinton* (7-3, 14.0) @ #1 J.I. Burton* (10-0, 21.5)
    #3 Appalachia (8-2, 17.2) @ #2 Haysi* (9-1, 18.1)

    *Denotes district champion

    Sitting at home would have been these three teams, all playoff teams under the current system and alignment:

    Castlewood (7-3, 13.2)
    Honaker (6-4, 15.7)
    Clintwood (6-4, 15.0)

    Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it...


    Leave the DRAMA to the MAMA'S


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    Re: What If...?

    I thought Ervinton was co-champs in the Cumberland? Under the automatic district champion playoff birth rule it does not apply to a co-champ. Correct me if I'm wrong. That would make Honaker the #4 seed in division 1.

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    Re: What If...?

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    I thought Ervinton was co-champs in the Cumberland? Under the automatic district champion playoff birth rule it does not apply to a co-champ. Correct me if I'm wrong. That would make Honaker the #4 seed in division 1.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    http://swvafootball.com/Football/foo...sl_ratings.htm


    Even still, that's not my point. Several on this forum that support a certain school seem to believe that if they are able to drop to Division 1 status - that this will be their post-season salvation. Even further, the point is you will have 16 Division 1 teams competing for 4 playoff spots, while in Division 2 you will have only 7 teams looking to gain one of the 4 playoff seedings.

    This just goes to show how ignorant it will be to have it set up this way. Some may think it's great moving down to Division 1 - until it's their school/team that ends up getting screwed in the same manner that some will most definitely have done to them. You think you've heard whining in the past, just wait to what you'll hear if the Region D football divisional split is 7/16 like some have mentioned on here.

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    Re: What If...?

    Of course you're using this year as your basis, what would it have been several other years?

    The biggest thing most people have said that even that isn't a fix.

    I know I, and others have said, its bad that a 6-4 Clintwood team goes this year, while what 8-2 ones have sat home before.

    I mean this one year, a bunch of teams beat Gate City than in a normal year will not. I wouldn't want to count on that being a yearly thing [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
    What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.

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    Re: What If...?

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    Of course you're using this year as your basis, what would it have been several other years?

    The biggest thing most people have said that even that isn't a fix.

    I know I, and others have said, its bad that a 6-4 Clintwood team goes this year, while what 8-2 ones have sat home before.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I used this year since this is the year before it may take place and for the simple fact that it had not been talked about until this season.

    I played on a 8-2 team that had to sit at home for the playoffs too. The competition in our region was just tougher than in other years - same goes for Clintwood and this year. The competition wasn't as tough as in past years as it was when Clintwood finished 8-2. Even in the NFL there could be years that a divisional champion could have a poor record - worse than other divisional champions and still make the playoffs. You'll never satisfy everyone. I guess the point I am trying to make is that under this possible re-alignment/reclassification scenario, every year you will have at least 14 teams vying for 2 playoff positions in Division 1 in football - and maybe at times 13 teams vying for just one. There will be more whining and crying in our area in the future if this does take place than there happens to be now.
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    Re: What If...?

    Oh by no means is the situation they are looking at a solution. The VHSL should just open their eyes and look in neighboring states for a better solution.
    What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.

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    Re: What If...?

    For determining the automatic bid to the playoffs you would go to the co-champ that has the highest points total in the Power Points system. After that you would go to head-to-head competition. Ervinton would get the playoff spot because they had a higher amount of points compared to Castlewood.
    [url="http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/scorecard/02/01/sterger.roadtrip/p1_sterger.jpg"]http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/scorecard/02/01/sterger.roadtrip/p1_sterger.jpg[/url]

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    Re: What If...?

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    In Division 2, you would have had:

    #4 Gate City (4-6, 13.5) @ #1 Lebanon* (8-2, 19.1)
    #3 Virginia High (5-5, 16.8) @ #2 Powell Valley (7-3, 18.0)


    [/ QUOTE ]

    These teams very well could be the 4 playing for the Region D Div.2 Title next year!

    I think the rankings will be a little different. HOWEVER, I dont think 3 teams from the NEW CMD will get in.

    Honaker could be the other team.

    The biggest problem is COEBURN in the Cumberland District. They should be moved down to Div.1 ... IMO.

    If Coeburn goes 4-6 or 5-5 and wins the weak Cumberland District we will have a possible 8-2 or 9-1 team sitting home.
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    Re: What If...?

    VHSDevil, under the Regional re-alignment with Lee High coming in, and if the VHSL does not do away with the Rye Cove Rule - under the current enrollment figures both Coeburn and Honaker will be Division 1 next season.

    Leave the DRAMA to the MAMA'S


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    Re: What If...?

    [ QUOTE ]
    VHSDevil, under the Regional re-alignment with Lee High coming in, and if the VHSL does not do away with the Rye Cove Rule - under the current enrollment figures both Coeburn and Honaker will be Division 1 next season.


    [/ QUOTE ]

    Are you saying they will be or saying they should be Div.1 next year?
    From what I know, Hoe-naked & Coal-burnt will be Div.2 next year! [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

    I'M A SLOW LEARNER! [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/arcadefreak.gif[/img]
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